Re:About Google's approach to research publication – Jeff Dean
by macmac on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:11PM
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I would respectfully recommend that you read "Getting to Yes" by Roger Fisher and William Ury. Effective negotiation is often about expressing interests, not specific actions or ultimative positions.
Re:About Google's approach to research publication – Jeff Dean
by BeetleB on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:22PM
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> It's really the only way to negotiate, pretty common.
As I point out in another comment[1], not only is this not true, negotiation experts universally criticize this as a way to negotiate.
Re:About Google's approach to research publication – Jeff Dean
by tantalor on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:20PM
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> the idea is the exact same
Yes, in that they are both childish. Your version just added more weasel words. The second you bring up the "R" word as a threat you have played your hand; everything else is window dressing.
Re:About Google's approach to research publication – Jeff Dean
by meetups323 on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:33PM
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Better to word it as "I believe the company should X instead of the current W, and to that end I will work with Y and Z to come up with a plan for moving to W' and what that should look like, once that is complete I will have better clarity over how to get to (W+X)/2, or if perhaps some V would actually be better for all parties.
I disagree with this. It's really the only way to negotiate, pretty common. The wording is important here. If you word it as "Do X or I'll quit" it sounds childish, if you word it as "I believe the company should X, otherwise I can't see myself working here comfortably and will have to consider my resignation" it sounds professional, but the idea is the exact same.