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Re:Billionaires Build by travisjungroth on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:52AM (#25303661)
All three are of your examples are wildly different in that they’re top-tier individual contributors. Of course you can become a prolific writer without exploiting anyone. A more fair comparison would be something like politician.
Re:Billionaires Build by stopachka on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:09AM (#25303891)
I think billionaires are much closer to what I mentioned than to politicians. You can tell this by the fact that most billionaires have engineering degrees or were tinkerers.

One defining quality is that billionaires need to scale work that often involves management. In this case consider prolific basketball coaches, or generals in war.

The reason I shy away from including politicians, is because their m.o is starkly different: it’s all about status.

Re:Billionaires Build by travisjungroth on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:00PM (#25306249)
Sure, coaches and generals are also much better comparison.

Either way, I think your argument is weak. “Sure you feel this away about billionaires. But change ‘billionaire’ to something different and your feelings change.”

Well, duh. That’s not even an analogy. You’re just literally changing the subject of the sentence. Billionaires are super different than writers in ways that are relevant to this discussion.

Re:Billionaires Build by stopachka on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:39PM (#25306711)
My argument is more like this:

Most people have a natural bias towards billionaires. To remove the particulars of the essay, to look at it with fresh eyes.

Yes, indeed it changes things, and no one change will map completely. Do this a few times though and a clearer sight comes through

Re:Billionaires Build by travisjungroth on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:25PM (#25307337)
What if I do that and I come to the same conclusions I did before?
Re:Billionaires Build by stopachka on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:05PM (#25308807)
Then, you can be more confident in your conclusions. You may still be off, but heck, you would have subjected yourself to much more critical thinking than average, and can be much more confident in your opinions.
Re:Billionaires Build by jariel on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:21AM (#25304059)
"All three are of your examples are wildly different in that they’re top-tier individual contributors"

And founders are not?

Some founders are at that level, and frankly, more important to society than most athletes or musicians.

MLB pitchers make $10's of millions of dollars a year, far more than most of our top talent.

Re:Billionaires Build by travisjungroth on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:56PM (#25306198)
My challenge is on the individual contributor part, not the top-tier part. A founder is not an IC, at least not past a certain point.