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Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by vmception on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:13AM (#25301111)
This is the preferred way to fix the “pipeline problem” for more inclusion

Recruit directly at a broader range of schools and make the curriculum more relevant

Big Tech largely ignores Tier 2 and Tier 3 schools for on campus recruiting, while imagining that the intelligence community has better developers (which does recruit from tier 2 and tier 3 schools on campus)

Since neither of them have figured out how to screen for competent or trainable developers better its clear big tech should be expanding how they recruit. Desirable because big tech is the one with the inclusion problem and pays better.

Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by Judgmentality on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:16AM (#25301124)
> Big Tech largely ignores Tier 2 and Tier 3 schools for on campus recruiting, while imagining that the intelligence community has better developers

I don't think the general consensus is that intelligence organizations have better developers than big tech. I think the rule of thumb is the better the pay, the better the quality.

Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by joncrane on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:10AM (#25301426)
I'm pretty sure intelligence agencies often have a better effort:pay ratio. This is due to the high barrier to entry of needing a TS (or even higher) clearance.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by vmception on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:46AM (#25301292)
There is a pervasive view that they have scifi technology that someone had to program

I think after various leaks that idea did evaporate a lot

Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by kodoque2 on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:48AM (#25301663)
Frankly the ANT catalog had some amazing stuff, but I think all the really cool tools are developed bespoke at small boutique company.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by vmception on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:51AM (#25303646)
defense contractors recruit the same way as intelligence does
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by alisonkisk on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:53PM (#25307781)
Because they had infinite budget, not a few high paid geniuses.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by bluedino on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:22AM (#25301491)
It would be a waste of time and money to recruit from ten lower ranking colleges for not so great students wouldn’t it? Even if they get like, one good one?
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by vmception on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:50AM (#25303637)
Then recruit from those colleges for great students

Am I reading elitist bs or can you elaborate?

Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments by kodoque2 on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:05AM (#25303845)
Yeah, I have no specific example in mind, but lot of time I stumble on insanely cool project and the guy that made it have a relatively modest education and was content working a simple dev jobs that allowed him to work on his hobby project in the first place.