AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google

Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by hardwaregeek on Thursday December 03, 2020 @07:37PM (#25297533)

I think we need to distinguish between social activist and politician. Social activists can certainly be politicians, such as Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders etc. But many are not. Obama is not a social activist. He's an effective politician, one who has certainly brought about change. But he's not a social activist.

Many social activists were famously unpopular. Martin Luther King died with a 66% disapproval rating^[1]. Susan B. Anthony was ridiculed and accused of trying to destroy the institution of marriage (sound familiar?).

Of course some activists veer too far. Jane Fonda is an example. I don't fault her opposition to the Vietnam War, but her infamous photo practically advocated for violence against American troops.

In a sense the aim of social activists is to be ahead of their time. MLK was reviled in his time and practically infallible today. We need both politicians and activists for progress. Politicians push forward the policy, but the activists push forward the politicians. Without activists, politicians can end up in holding patterns, afraid to lose popularity. Without politicians, activists are just screaming into a void.

[1]: https://www.newsweek.com/martin-luther-king-jr-was-not-alway...

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Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by xibalba on Thursday December 03, 2020 @07:48PM (#25297608)

Obama got his start as an actual activist, under the title of "community organizer", in Chicago. Even in his early years, he clearly understood that to get real results, you have to make compromises and avoid demonizing people on the other side of issues. To my eye, Obama's emotional intelligence, communication ability, and strategic aptitude are genius-level-off-the-charts-stupendous, whereas these firebrand activists you mention are operating at an elementary level.

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Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by esyir on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:20AM (#25299280)

If I may put it differently, you know how most on the left see trump as infantile, poor of character, and so on

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Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by rndgermandude on Thursday December 03, 2020 @10:25PM (#25298535)

>Many social activists were famously unpopular. Martin Luther King died with a 66% disapproval rating^[1].

Being unpopular is hardly the same as being abrasive and rude.

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