Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by sjs382 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @06:18PM
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I think I covered that in #1 & #2, unless there's something subtle I missed.
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Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by davorak on Thursday December 03, 2020 @07:11PM
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I think the subtle part might be "It was approved then", I read that somewhere too and it was not clear whether it was approved by google despite it not following the normal 2 week process or if it was talking about some other form of approval.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by tfehring on Thursday December 03, 2020 @10:13PM
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From Dean's email:
>Unfortunately, this particular paper was only shared with a day’s notice before its deadline — we require two weeks for this sort of review — and then instead of awaiting reviewer feedback, it was approved for submission and submitted.
Not sure what to make of that - maybe that Gebru submitted the paper and then immediately clicked the "approve" button herself?
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by mehrdada on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:28AM
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Most definitely not. I think that is a critical detail. You can be 100% sure if she clicked on Approve herself, Jeff would have either omitted that fact entirely or definitely explicitly mentioned it was a self-approval. Some other person clicked on Approve for sure and they are somehow not putting any responsibility on that person in this public narrative.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by sjs382 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @10:16PM
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Yeah, I had a hard time making heads and tails of what that bit meant, exactly.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by kazamaloo on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:28AM
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it is sort of a placeholder approval. The actual reviews may be done by a legal team, HR/PR, other researchers in the field etc.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by mehrdada on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:44PM
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Do you have actual information or just randomly speculating about the nature of that "approval" under a newly created anonymous HackerNews account?
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by FeepingCreature on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:13AM
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A "placeholder approval" is also known as an "approval". If they didn't want to approve it, they shouldn't have done it.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by kazamaloo on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:41PM
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what you refer to as "they" are two different entities.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google
by FeepingCreature on Sunday December 06, 2020 @09:28AM
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If the company doesn't even have a clear indication who is authorized to approve things, that seems much more a Google problem.