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Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by inetknght on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:56AM (#25286281)
I'm not aware of any non-Apple facetime clients. Are your friends and family all locked in to Apple just because nobody wants to try a different chat app? I know plenty of people who don't have any facetime client whatsoever because they don't have any Apple products whatsoever. I suggest that "nobody else you know" wants to migrate to new chat software because nobody's asking them to.

Nextcloud, Matrix, Discord, Signal, Telegram, Skype, Zoom, hell even Pidgin. These are all competitors to Apple's Facetime -- they all have voice and/or video chat on Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, iOS.

Here, let me help you start the conversation that way:

> You: Hey mom/dad/friend/acquaintance/boss, I'm going to use a different program to talk to people who don't have an iPhone. Can you install it and talk to me on it for a bit and test it?

> Mom/dad/friend/acquaintance/boss: Yeah sure what's the app?

> Another mom/dad/friend/acquaintance/boss: What? No.

I wonder which way the conversation will go?

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by Consultant32452 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @11:44AM (#25290853)
About a quarter of my circle are elderly people who are literally incapable of installing an app themselves. I might have an extreme case, but this world you live in isn't real. Even the young tech savvy ones would immediately be like, "This isn't magically/obviously better, just Facetime me."
Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by zepto on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:54PM (#25293796)
An environment where people are forced to install software doesn’t seem like a better world for elderly people who are incapable of installing an app.

Perhaps they should be allowed to buy an appliance where most of their basic computing needs have great, widely used, secure solutions out of the box.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by Consultant32452 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @04:57PM (#25295754)
It's called an iPhone.