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Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:09PM (#25284866)
> My absolute dream would be for the DOJ to make Google and Apple collaborate on a cross-platform native app API and treat it as a first class citizen.

No. This is exactly what they should not be doing, because it requires detailed ongoing precision regulatory work.

The government is not a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. It can easily say that the same company can't make both third party app stores and operating systems, or both video search/recommendations and video hosting. It's a clear enough line, it isn't mired in technical details, you swing the sledgehammer at the fault line between the two markets and break them apart. Then you go home.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by echelon on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:20PM (#25284945)
> The government is not a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. It can easily say that the same company can't make both third party app stores and operating systems, or both video search/recommendations and video hosting. It's a clear enough line, it isn't mired in technical details, you swing the sledgehammer at the fault line between the two markets and break them apart. Then you go home.

This works.

Let's do it.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by rmrfstar on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:22AM (#25286449)
It sounds nice, Glass-Steagall for tech. Worked in finance for a long time.

But I think that technology is going to make it easy to work around structural separation. Facebook derives its power from building dossiers on billions of people. They are intelligent motivated people. I don't think that pushing different activities into different orgs is going to do anything to limit that power.

Their surveillance business model is what needs to go. Will society collapse if we shift from behavioral to contextual advertising? I doubt it.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by visarga on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:06AM (#25285941)
> the same company can't make both third party app stores and operating systems, or both video search/recommendations and video hosting

I like the idea of spinning off the search/recommendation/filtering from hosting (for video) and crawling (for search). We should have more diversity, filtering is not to be trusted to a monopoly.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by dismantlethesun on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:49PM (#25285144)
I think you're right. However, the op said it was their "dream".

It's okay to have a dream be infeasible in real life.

My dream government functions as a scalpel, dynamically reacting to situations faster than any one person can think and creating outcomes better than any capitalist market. However, history has shown this to be infeasible so it will always remain a dream.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by flyinglizard on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:53AM (#25286252)
You’ll find some of what you wish for in China, where government policies and regulation are liquid and reactive.
Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by echelon on Thursday December 03, 2020 @03:35AM (#25286859)
The App Store is kind of like the CCP regime.

You kowtow to the app store rules, or you're out. There are no other alternatives.

We need laws and regulations to protect freedoms and liberty and give power back to the people.

I think your analogy is all wrong.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by formercoder on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:35PM (#25285048)
My feelings during every GDPR training.