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Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by mschuster91 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @09:35PM (#25284589)
> It required Microsoft to innovate more - and look where they are now!

Arguably things went seriously downhill with Windows 8 and culminated in the horror that is W10: ads everywhere, invasive tracking that can't be made to shut up for good, extremely ugly redesign.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by edgyquant on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:07PM (#25284856)
> extremely ugly redesign

I’ll never get how people can argue that older versions of Windows are more aesthetically pleasing than windows 10. I don’t use Windows (and haven’t since XP) but even I think 10 looks better than, say, Windows 7s fat task bar.

Although I can actually say with a straight face I think most default Linux DEs look better than Windows for the first time in my life.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by mschuster91 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @11:33PM (#25285414)
I have always turned off all that redesign nonsense in XP and 7.

There's a reason that the Win95 look is so iconic and "timeless": it's clear, consistent and simple. Windows 10 is a fucking hot mess, made worse by the fact that Microsoft for whatever dumb reason wanted the same UI on mobile and desktop, and the result was the worst possible outcome.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by philliphaydon on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:33PM (#25285034)
I only use Windows for gaming, or old .NET Framework projects. But man Windows 10 is SOOOOOOO much more visually appealing than any other version of windows to date. And better visually than most linux distros.

And I really don't know what this 'ads everywhere' crap people keep talking about.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by themacguffinman on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @11:30PM (#25285390)
It's hard to miss the fact that Windows 10 pre-installs Candy Crush and your start menu looks like this:

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ximg_57...

From https://www.howtogeek.com/269331/how-to-disable-all-of-windo...

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by com2kid on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:52AM (#25286245)
Meanwhile my android phone comes with youtube preinstalled, mandatory, and it tries to upsell me on YT premium multiple times a day.

Or premium photo service.

Oh and my phone randomly shows me ads, from Google, for their photo printing service.

Maps now has ads.

I'll remove the link to candy crush and not let it bother me, but I can't stop the YT premium ads.

Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by CameronNemo on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @11:40PM (#25285451)
Ads are not present on Windows Pro IIRC. Something like that. Just a simple price discrimination.
Re:U.S. states plan to sue Facebook next week: sources by philliphaydon on Thursday December 03, 2020 @12:16AM (#25285660)
Ah I’ve never seen home edition!