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Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by mrosett on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:21PM (#25283149)
Probability it happens is 1 in 50c5 (the number of ways to choose 5 balls out of 50.) So probability it doesn't happen is 1-1/50c5. Probability it never happens in a year is that number raised to (3651000). That gives 85%, so there's a 1-.85 = 15% chance that it does happen each year:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%281-1%2F%2850choose5%...

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by brandmeyer on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:17PM (#25283650)
This analysis is spot-on under the assumption of 1000 lotteries per day, although your asterisks are getting trashed by the markdown.

To the other folks ending up with some wild results, there is a basic checksum on probability: If you compute the probability of an event happening at greater than 100% you've borked something up.

Bug: They drew 5 balls from one pool of 50 with an independent draw from another smaller pool of 20, so you need ~~50 ncr 6~~ (50 ncr 5) * 20, not 50 ncr 5.

Nit: I would rephrase your answer that there is a 0.85% chance that it happens one or more times in any given year. There remains a (vanishingly small) chance that it happened on every single random draw during the year.

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:44PM (#25283845)
Wait. Why is it 50c5? If you want to know how many ways you can roll triples with 3 dice, it isn't 6c3, right?

There's 6 possible triple dice combinations and there are 6^3 possible dice combinations, so it's 6/(6^3).

If you wanted to know the odds of rolling 3 dice in order, you could roll: 1, 2, 3 OR 2, 3, 4 OR 3, 4, 5 OR 4, 5, 6 - which is 4/(6^3) - which is not 6c3.

Why is it different with the lottery? Or did I get the dice wrong?

Or are you calculating that the balls can be drawn in any order?

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by brandmeyer on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:59PM (#25283944)
Balls drawn in any order, without replacement.

The probability of guessing all 6 balls in a single lottery is 1 in (50 ncr 6). So, the probability of losing is 1 - 1/(50 ncr 6). The probability of losing every time is (1 - 1/(50 ncr 6)^(n_games), where n_games = 365 * 1000. Therefore, the probability of winning at least one game is (1 - (1 - 1/(50 ncr 6)^(n_games)).

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @08:31PM (#25284172)
Got it. 50c6 is the total combinations. But there's more than 1 combination of 6 ascending balls, right? Why is it 1 in (50c6) instead of 45 in (50c6)?
Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by brandmeyer on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @09:55PM (#25284748)
Oh, sure. There's a number of different suspect or convenient sequences out there. All of the evenly-spaced sequences could be considered suspicious if you go broadly enough. A detail I tried to add back in up-thread: The sixth ball is from a separate pool of 20 balls. So 50c5 * 20 is the total number of possible draws, and there are 14 directly in-order sequences.

But the main point was the methodology. (1 - (1 - chance_of_sequence)^(n_draws)).

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:14PM (#25284905)
Thanks! Why are there only 14 in-order sequences??

Couldn't there be 1 2 3 4 5 6 AND 2 3 4 5 6 7 AND 3 4 5... Doesn't this give you 45?

Re:South Africa's lottery probed as 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 drawn by NineStarPoint on Thursday December 03, 2020 @12:12AM (#25285634)
As the person above said, one of the balls is restricted to only 1-20. This ball is drawn last.

You get 14 possible draws if the order the balls are drawn in matters (14-20 being the highest, with 20 drawn last), and 20 permutations if it does not (since any straight above 20-25 is not possible). The math is much different for drawing if the order matters though. There also would probably be some funky stuff going on for the higher straights where order doesn’t matter, since for a 20-25 straight the 20 ball must be the special ball. For a 19-24 straight either 19 or 20 must be, etc. Really you’re looking at calculating “Chance that the first five balls can create a straight with a number between 1-20, and then a 1/20 chance that straight actually happens.”