Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US labor board alleges

Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by marricks on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:10PM (#25283035)

Sounds like a great time to consider the differences between positive and negative liberty.

Negative liberty: no one can get in my way of doing whatever I want! Google has the right to rootkit my life and I have the right to ignore it and work at a bodega because all tech giants eventually agreed this is a good practice for them

Positive liberty: corporations can't infringe on my right to a private life and must protect my liberty to be a free unconstrained being

I don't know about you but I'd much prefer a world where everyone is guaranteed certain freedoms than one where big companies can use positive liberty arguments to exploit people in new and novel ways.

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Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by MereInterest on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:24PM (#25283190)

I've heard it phrased the other way around. Positive liberty is about things that are guaranteed (e.g. health care, food, human dignity). Negative liberty is about things that may not be done (e.g. no punishment for speech, no limitations on buying guns, no environmental regulations).

We are in agreement about which type is better, so this is solely a quibble about the names.

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Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by marricks on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:27PM (#25283724)

I just flipped them, reading the wiki on the terms I see I had them backwards.

My partner always corrects me and I think they have them wrong :P at least we agree on which one is better too

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Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by ByteJockey on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:04PM (#25283530)

I think you're thinking positive vs negative rights (which are like what you're describing).

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