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Re:The $2B Mall Rats by JKCalhoun on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:01AM (#25274185)
Sorry, I can't cheerlead for a bunch of corporate chains in an expensive real estate storefront marking up conspicuous consumables 500% and paying their employees minimum wage.

Fuck malls. They're reaping now what they sowed a long, long time ago when they killed the family-owned business on main street.

The footprint of the modern mall is outrageous in its size. I'd like to think that creative and forward-thinking cities will come up with a much better use for that real estate.

Re:The $2B Mall Rats by core-questions on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:57PM (#25282206)
> Fuck malls. They're reaping now what they sowed a long, long time ago when they killed the family-owned business on main street.

Well, you understand that a mall is just a covered street you can't drive on, right? With some shared infrastructure? In the rainy wastelands of North America, it turns out that people like that kind of thing. It's appealing to not worry about cars when your children are scurrying about. It went more upscale than anyone needed - the prototypical "bazaar" turned corporate - but it's hard to argue in the big flat commons the occupies much of this country that it's really a waste of space.

Time was there were a lot more mom-n-pop style stored in the mall. It was an easier place to start one, you just lease your space and all the facilities are provided for you!

Malls may have damaged Main Street, but it was the big box / department stores that really did that, and it was through efficiency and better logistics pushing prices down, and corners being cut every which way, that they did so - not just by virtue of their size and location. Nobody gave a shit that Main Street was dying because they could get their own needs for less than before.

Now, imagine if we could keep the logistics, but force the profit back into the communities where the spend is happening. Paying retail workers a lot more is a good way to look at doing that.

Re:The $2B Mall Rats by superhuzza on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:07AM (#25275338)
The size problem doesn't have much to do with malls - it has to do with parking. Many inner-city malls have no parking and seem very space efficient to me.

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Re:The $2B Mall Rats by joe_momma on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:17AM (#25275678)
Who do you cheer for then, because ain't no mom and pop shop in existence anymore. The mall was the greatest counter to things like Walmart where a single company was profiting and not a conglomerate of businesses. The banks ruined main street not people trying to find and make the best place to sell things.
Re:The $2B Mall Rats by arc0 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:55AM (#25275889)
I split time between a major world city and a small (10k population) town. Both have many independent businesses. Where do you live that this is not the case?
Re:The $2B Mall Rats by joe_momma on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @08:53AM (#25276311)
Could any of those businesses get larger sitting where they are now? Or could they have grown into something bigger at a mall like venue?
Re:The $2B Mall Rats by onemiketwelve on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:09AM (#25274232)
I dunno, some people enjoy malls, they have experiences and products you can't find going from small store to small store.

Most small towns don't have a one off Chanel or LV store, and some people want that stuff.