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Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by gm on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:42PM (#25269620)
I hate being the product as well, but it's pretty much inescapable now. Paying for a service does not opt you out of being marketed to other income streams as a product (ie, combined stats, being part of a test group, etc).

The best we can hope for by paying for a product is getting additional features and not being inconvenienced (ie, avoiding ads).

Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by vorpalhex on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:53PM (#25269759)
I almost bought an $80 pdf application (pdf expert) only to find out it phones home with my device details...

And now that company won't be getting my $80. I'll use the open source alternatives, even if they aren't as nice to use.

Use open source, write your own open source or just do without. You can't just accept the inevitable and bow into it - inevitability doesn't change morality.

Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by nicoburns on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @06:23PM (#25271401)
Device details? As in, operating system and version, cpu, etc. That seems super reasonable for support purposes...
Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by vorpalhex on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @12:58PM (#25279173)
> 2.1.2 Regarding the App: certain data is transmitted by your mobile device: namely your IP address, the periods of time in which you use the App and the type of device you use (e.g. IPhone, IPad), as well as events within the application recorded with Amplitude analytics in order to give us the possibility to continuously improve the App.

From their privacy policy. Oddly enough, no, they don't need to broadcast my ip and when I use the app. Not required at all for me to read PDFs. They may want that data - and if so they should ask me instead of just taking it.

Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by adkadskhj on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @04:18PM (#25270018)
I agree, but in the case of audio or video recording devices i am especially paranoid. If someone sells how often i use a toaster i'm annoyed - if someone sells video or audio of me i'm livid.
Re:Wyze $20 Smart Watch by m463 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @05:05PM (#25270634)
don't give up.