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Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by Veen on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @06:14AM (#25264258)
Expensive doesn't mean "two extra clicks". It means convincing all of your friends and family to use a new platform. Facebook's network effects impose very high switching costs.

That's one reason your "free choice" defense of Facebook is inadequate. Yes, people "choose" to use Facebook. Yes, they are techncially free to stop using it. But, when the cost is high, is the choice really free?

If an individual's social and professional life depends on a platform because that's what everyone else uses, they cannot in practice switch to another platform even if that is their preference. You might as well argue that someone from a disfunctional family gets a new family. Or that someone living in a disfunctional state emigrates. They can do these things in theory, but in practice they are not completely free to do them.

Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by inglor_cz on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @06:36AM (#25264364)
This. Lack of interoperability is what keeps people from moving to another platform.

A mandated API for interoperability would go a long way. Just like with e-mails. We expect people with Gmail addresses to be able to get in contact with someone who does not have Gmail.

Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by treeman79 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @09:48AM (#25265611)
Post grand kid photos else where. Grandmas will follow.

Turned off my Facebook for awhile. Losing access to photos about caused a family riot.

Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by ryandrake on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:05PM (#25267079)
As someone who once used facebook, maybe a decade ago, but currently does not, I can confidently say I've seen little to no social expense to not using it. My real friends and family keep me abreast of the important things that are happening offline, and I get to skip the rest that happens on Facebook, which is essentially noise, baby pictures, and toxic politics.

I think it's almost entirely FOMO that is keeping people on these horrible "social" platforms. Best decision of my life was to leave.

Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by Veen on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @01:10PM (#25267890)
You say FOMO as if it's a trivial thing, and not a deeply influential aspect of the human psyche.
Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by Erlich_Bachman on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:10AM (#25274690)
And that's Zuckerberg's fault too, that people have it? Demonizing much?
Re:Why do I care the open web is dying? by kwk1 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:25AM (#25275720)
It seems like you're attacking a point you made for the person you're replying to instead of anything in their actual comment here.