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Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by deaddodo on Sunday November 29, 2020 @05:33PM (#25248718)
I have a Dell XPS 9500 (the 2020 model) with an nVidia driver. I run PopOS! as my daily driver and it works with the GPU just fine.
Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by saati on Sunday November 29, 2020 @06:45PM (#25249222)
Can it run sway?
Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by deaddodo on Monday November 30, 2020 @12:17AM (#25250943)
I haven't attempted sway specifically, but I don't see why not. The OS installs with nouveau on wayland by default, and runs perfectly fine (at a ~60-70% performance level, based on Linux/Proton gaming FPS). I use GNOME on Xorg, so have no issues with the proprietary driver.
Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by chrismorgan on Monday November 30, 2020 @01:40AM (#25251265)
Looks like that’d be the GTX 1650 Ti? That’s of the NV160 family, and per https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html (assuming it’s up to date), that lacks all 2D and video acceleration, and power management. That sounds rather like a mediocre toy for a large fraction of users. And Wayland needs Nouveau, because the NVIDIA proprietary driver is a hostile environment that does everything its own way rather than the way everyone else does things.
Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by deaddodo on Monday November 30, 2020 @06:16PM (#25260295)
Then use the Intel card and you'll have full acceleration + wayland. Or don't buy the laptop. I was simply answering the question.

You're being unnecessarily antagonistic here. I have a modern 2020 laptop, it works for all of my needs with an nvidia GPU.

Re:Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon? by chrismorgan on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:05AM (#25263100)
Look, the whole context here is “NVIDIA cards have bad Linux support”. And that’s just what we demonstrated from saati’s comment onwards in the example of Sway: that if you want to go Wayland, you’re stuck with bad functionality. Because graphics cards and computers are powerful enough, many people will be able to live with this crippled functionality and might not even notice it, but compare it with the story for AMD dedicated GPUs, or AMD or Intel integrated GPUs, and the point is substantiated: if you want to actually use the GPU fully, you just can’t do so properly.

(And a large portion of the problems people are talking about are with Nouveau; people that can use the proprietary driver—specifically, people using X rather than Wayland—will have a better time of it, though still worse than with GPUs of other brands.)