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Re:No Config for Old Men by pitay on Sunday November 29, 2020 @01:39AM (#25243387)
This is laughable. If propaganda and advertising don't work, then why is everyone so invested in creating it?

The people creating propaganda are also interested in enforcing censorship if they are in the position to do so.

Propaganda and censorship work far better together than individually for groups that want to brainwash society into certain beliefs.

Re:No Config for Old Men by Jetrel on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:41AM (#25245054)
Promoting free speech would be efficacious as a tool to stop such people if it had any "staying power" to linger on as a defense-in-depth tool to fight them after they assume power - that it would take a while for them to get rid of it. Unfortunately, I believe it could get shut down almost immediately.

The trick is simply keeping people like that out of power.

Re:No Config for Old Men by XorNot on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:32AM (#25243575)
I guess we all imagined that multi-billion dollar advertising industry then...
Re:No Config for Old Men by pitay on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:24AM (#25243775)
I need more context or detail to understand the point you a trying to get at. I really do, because otherwise I am just trying to guess what you mean, or even how it correlates to what I said at all. Without further clarification, it seems to be tangential to me.
Re:No Config for Old Men by XorNot on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:05AM (#25244918)
Who is "they"? Who apparently represents all global advertising interests, and also represents all who desire to censorship for any reason?
Re:No Config for Old Men by pitay on Sunday November 29, 2020 @09:05AM (#25245154)
I still don't understand what you are saying. When you say "Who is "they"?". Are you saying Google and other tech giants? They have huge advertising networks. But that is a total guess since what you are saying is still very unclear. It looks like you don't want to be clear about this. I'd really prefer you to just say it, rather than all this cryptic stuff.

But since you go on about advertising, that is a way for groups that want it, is to be able to force people to listen to their message. This robs people of their agency to listen to what they choose to. Censorship also doesn't allow people to listen to what they choose to. This makes advertising and censorship very alike. They both result in a persons loss of freedom to choose what information they get.