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Re:An ex-Googler’s guide to dev tools by rockwotj on Thursday November 26, 2020 @12:24PM (#25221890)
Hasn't pcon been deprecated for a year and a half now? :P

More pixels != to more information. The visuals and varieties in ways to present data in grafana always seemed more intuitive for me, being able to lay stuff out in different ways was great. I worked on a G-on-G project at Google and used both grafana and viceroy. I never had an issue with grafana on mobile, but I was never was able to see viceroy on a mobile browser because of the Corp network.

Re:An ex-Googler’s guide to dev tools by jeffbee on Thursday November 26, 2020 @02:35PM (#25222926)
On viceroy if you unintentionally put 2000 lines on a graph, you get a visual mess. If you do that on grafana your tab will hang for ten minutes. Big difference.
Re:An ex-Googler’s guide to dev tools by rockwotj on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:15PM (#25223205)
True, but that only happens when setting up graphs. Graphs are not changed as often as they are viewed.

I'm sure viceroy is more performant, and I'm not denying that, I may also be scarred a bit because I found writing mash queries an arcane nightmare, and those are related to viceroy.

The default (rpc latencies and etc) views and metrics you get are amazing however.

Re:An ex-Googler’s guide to dev tools by joshuamorton on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:26PM (#25223276)
You can also get tons of lines when modifying group by expressions, which you can do ineffectively.

Mash is indeed arcane, although gmon (viceroy) makes it worse than usual.