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Re:Magic mushrooms are changing the lives of terminal cancer... by 3np on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:50AM (#25218473)
Ketamine is not generally considered a psychedelic. It's a disassociative.

I don't think I've ever seen a study comparing this in the way you describe, but from piecing together other papers I recall seeing I would say probably psiloc(yb)in, possibly DMT ("ayahuasca"), with LSD and mescaline (peyote/san pedro) being qualitatively similar. All of these are primarily serotonergic.

I'd be surprised if Salvia does jack shit in that domain, regardless of how trippy the experience can be. It acts very differently.

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Re:Magic mushrooms are changing the lives of terminal cancer... by lostgame on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:29AM (#25218683)
>> Ketamine is not generally considered a psychedelic. It's a disassociative.

Yeah, I don't think people who say that have done a high enough dosage. :P

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Re:Magic mushrooms are changing the lives of terminal cancer... by drooogs on Thursday November 26, 2020 @12:39PM (#25222024)
kinda splitting hairs, but these words do have specific meanings. psychedelics and dissociatives of hallucinogens, a broader category of drugs. you definitely see weird stuff if you take enough ketamine, but the hallucinations have a very different character.

subjectively, I find psychedelics to have more of an "organic" feel and dissociatives to have a more "synthetic" feel, although I imagine others might describe it differently.

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Re:Magic mushrooms are changing the lives of terminal cancer... by 3np on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:10AM (#25218889)
It can absolutely induce psychedelic experiences - in medical literature it's not generally (though this is not entirely consistent) classified as a psychedelic.
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