Re:World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
by kelnos on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:32PM
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> Your statement "it's never enough for vegans" has two sides for me.
That's all well and good, but the only side that matters is the side that the statement was responding to: the original parent's comment that advocated for not bothering with technologies such as this, but instead moving toward an all-vegan society.
From that perspective, I think "it's never enough for [that kind of] vegan" is quite apt here.
Re:World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
by cies on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:51AM
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There are camps in the vegan movement. For instance the abolitionists vs the utilitarians. The latter are generally more supportive harm reduction and will sometimes also eat non-vegan food when it otherwise goes to waste.
I'd say most vegans at this point think "harm reduction" is just a form of "green washing" and does not deserve our support or attention.
Sure some vegan may voice their believe that "all animals should be wild", but not even this belief is shared among all vegans and not all are activists.
Your statement "it's never enough for vegans" has two sides for me. If someone abstains from animal derived products, vegans will generally think that's "enough". The mission and "required behavioral change" is very commonly agreed on by vegans (contrary to other movements). On the other hand, most vegans are very aware that pest control is not going away soon, and that fast modes of transport will cause some (mostly bugs) collateral harm. From this point of view you are right: there will always be some next frontier of harm reduction. It will never be enough.
For me there is a line between breeding domesticated animals, and the regretted harm caused to wild animals. I find the first appalling, where the latter is something I cannot reasonably go completely without (bugs on my windshield, pest control, etc.).