Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by ninkendo on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:37AM
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Simple is not the same as easy. Weight loss is one of the most extreme examples of “dead simple, but mind-meltingly difficult” there is.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by simonsarris on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:43AM
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> We know we should not eat a bag of Doritos for dinner. We know a pint of ice cream is not a snack. But it's what our bodies crave, and fighting that takes energy and focus.
Why does it take so much energy to decline to buy bad things that we 'know' are bad?
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by blakesterz on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:55AM
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Good question, one of many that if we had answers for I bet people would be much happier. Some of us don't control what comes into the house for various reasons, I know that's one answer.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by LittlePeter on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:36AM
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> Some people just have conditions where they can NOT lose weight.
Of course the laws of thermodynamics say that is impossible. You will lose weight if you don't eat. You may not lose weight if you eat moderately, while another person will.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by EForEndeavour on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:19PM
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Doesn't your third sentence contradict your second sentence?
If you believe it's "impossible" for people to have conditions where they can't lose weight (in other words: different people experience different difficulty levels in modifying their body composition), then why would you go on to claim that "you may not lose weight if you eat moderately, while another person will"?
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by LittlePeter on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:01AM
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It does not contradict, no. I can lose weight eating moderately but you may not. You may need to eat bordering on starvation to lose weight, which in my book is not "moderate".
Basically, my point is, some people have to suffer more to lose weight. But all people will lose weight regardless if they stop eating, because physics.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months
by EForEndeavour on Thursday November 26, 2020 @10:10AM
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This tired tendency to reduce weight control to physics is patently counterproductive. It's about as helpful as pointing out to a smoker that they'd quit smoking regardless of how addicted they are, if only they could smoke progressively fewer cigarettes, because logic and definitions. Technically correct, but misses the point entirely.
It is, but it's really REALLY not. I'd bet that most everyone knows what they should be eating and doing to lose weight / be healthy. It's probably obvious to most adults. Some people just have conditions where they can NOT lose weight. And then there's the rest of us. We know it's that simple. We know we should not eat a bag of Doritos for dinner. We know a pint of ice cream is not a snack. But it's what our bodies crave, and fighting that takes energy and focus. And today we had a bad day at work. Today when we got home we had to fight with the kids to do homework. This weekend there's a big party and we're not ready. Next week there's a huge project due at work. Are we going fight the urge to eat a bag of cheese balls before bed? Nope, we just don't have the energy. We'll start next week, when there's not so much going on.
As simple as it seems to you, it's not at all simple for many MANY people. They need help, and they need support. And that's why Weight Watchers exists. Losing weight is somehow simultaneously very easy and nearly impossibly hard for most of us.