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Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by s1artibartfast on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @04:03PM (#25202973)
Simply put, I think it is cool and would like to to stick around. For what it is worth, here are a few points to consider.

There already is art Throughout the wilderness and I think it is great. Sometimes the art is as simple as a statue or plaque commemorating a historic location, other times it is DIY art like this.

The point of national parks isn’t to preserve wilderness for the sake of preservation. The point is recreation. This is why they are full of artificial modifications like roads, trails, and sometimes attractions with shops and bathrooms.

Also, as far as I can tell, this isn’t in a national park, but on federal BLM land Used for hunting and off-roading.

Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by cowboysauce on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @05:15PM (#25203621)
> The point of national parks isn’t to preserve wilderness for the sake of preservation. The point is recreation.

The national parks service philosophy is very preservationist. They advise people to follow guidelines that are literally called “leave no trace”. Their mission statement uses the word preserve in the first sentence. Hell, part of the reason why Big Bend national park never became an international park (among many others) was because the parks service disagreed with the laxer, conservationist approach that Mexican authorities favored.

>The point is recreation. This is why they are full of artificial modifications like roads, trails, and sometimes attractions with shops and bathrooms.

Those modifications are done carefully to have as little impact on the environment and a lot of types of recreation are completed banned in national parks, hunting being the obvious one. The use of vehicles (including bicycles) is completely banned in federally designated wilderness.

What steps did whoever installed this take to make sure that this thing isn’t going to leech metals into an ephemeral watering hole used by wildlife?

Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by s1artibartfast on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:41AM (#25206528)
I agree that the NapS is ver preservationist, compared to the blm, where the monolith is located. For what it is worth 66/75 of national parks permit hunting.

https://www.doi.gov/blog/hunting-and-fishing-national-parks-...

Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by ericmay on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @04:45PM (#25203305)
Well you can certainly have your own perspective, I just disagree 100% with it and will use whatever means I have to make sure that the tiny bits of nature we have left are preserved to the extent possible. Some aluminum "art" in the middle of nowhere is a perversion and should be garbage collected. That's my view, which I will use dollars and my vote toward.
Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by s1artibartfast on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:32AM (#25206504)
We might just have agree to disagree. I have literally seen tens of thousands of pounds of garbage dumped on public land. The idea that some out of the way and moderately interesting art is a priority is laughable.
Re:Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert by ericmay on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:09AM (#25208809)
> I have literally seen tens of thousands of pounds of garbage dumped on public land.

Yes, and they shouldn't be.

> The idea that some out of the way and moderately interesting art is a priority is laughable.

I don't think it's that interesting, but besides that I don't follow your rationale. Because some people litter against the rules, we shouldn't clean up this thing someone put on federal lands? Even so, wouldn't large pieces of litter take priority over smaller ones simply due to human nature?

I really feel like you're stretching here. Frankly, it's interesting to watch people defend some thing they just found out about and have no attachment to.