Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by pixl97 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @09:53AM
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>And it's precisely what's responsible for falling HDD volumes and rising SDD volumes.
Eh, I'd say that its because a SSD does 50,000 IOPS+ and HDDs do about 150. Once SSDs came out and started being mass produced that spelled the death of HDD in most devices. Dropping the price of HDDs to near 0 won't stop that.
Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by jmnicolas on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @09:56AM
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At home I need about 20 TB of storage (without counting redundancy). I'm not rich enough to do that with SSDs.
And fwiw, HDD go up to 18 TB nowadays.
Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by wegs on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @02:44PM
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I was comparing specific lines of drives -- mainstream lines from a major vendor (WD/Sandisk).
SSDs also go way up in size, but prices spike after you hit a corner.
Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by HeadsUpHigh on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @08:39AM
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Cheapest ssd $/tb is x2-3 that of the cheapest hdd. That's still significant.
Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by flaviu1 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @12:06PM
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That'd actually be acceptable to me, since I wouldn't feel the need for redundancy--but it looks like the cheapest 1TB SSD that can be found is $67, while I can get HDDs for $15.88/TB. That's x4.2 the price of an HDD, definitely not practical for me.
Re:What is the benefit of having FIPS hardware-level encrypt...
by HeadsUpHigh on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @01:49PM
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Yes the cheapest ssd is more expensive /tb than the optimal one( which is ~1tb atm).
And it's precisely what's responsible for falling HDD volumes and rising SDD volumes.
Which, in turn, is precisely what's responsible for stagnant HDD and falling SSD prices.
I can get a big-enough 480GB Sandisk SSD for $55 right now, and a 2TB SSD for $190, manufacturer direct. Looking at their WD_BLACK HDD, that's actually a buck cheaper than their 500GB HDD. For 2TB, I'd be looking at $99 instead of $190; at less than 2x the price difference, the SSD is a far better option for most people.
Of course, the HDD goes all the way up to 10TB (at $320), at which point, so it still comes out ahead for bulk storage. SSDs hit a breakpoint at 2TB, where price and complexity go up astronomically. I can either drop a few grand on a specialized product, or around $1000 on several drives and build a RAID. So there's still a market. Just not a particularly big one.
Prices are based on first sensible link on their web page (presumably, most popular product). You can go up or down in price if you click around, go off-brand, but the qualitative picture doesn't change. HDDs require a lot of infrastructure, and the market is evaporating.
I suspect the upper end will disappear soon enough.
I do still want some kind of bulk storage. I want to back up my photos somewhere reliable, but there seems little left. Tape is thousands of dollars for the hardware, while optical is now tiny. Nothing seems to compete with the volumes, economies-of-scale, or R&D budget of integrated circuits.