Re:Are pixie fairies behind Bitcoin's latest bubble?
by alethiophile on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @09:27PM
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> Now, arbitrage bots will look at this in crease in btc-usdt, and be mandated to buy btc with USD so that BTC-USDT and BTC-USD are in parity.
This is the bit that doesn't make sense.
Arbitrage bots trying to push BTC-USD up to match BTC-USDT will end up holding a lot of USDT. So what do they do with it? You can't just magically make USD markets go up; that needs actual USD to enter the system (as part of the arbitrage process, if nothing else).
Re:Are pixie fairies behind Bitcoin's latest bubble?
by raziel2701 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:43AM
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Someone in this whole scheme is leveraged to the tits on tether, and newly minted tether is needed as an asset to back the old tether. And as long as nobody actually tests the convertibility of the currency too strongly, this can hold up.
Re:Are pixie fairies behind Bitcoin's latest bubble?
by alethiophile on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:01PM
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But if arbitrage bots were pushing the BTCUSD price up to match BTCUSDT, they'd have giant piles of USDT. And they'd have to convert it back in large quantities, or else they'd go broke.
The world where no one tests the peg too hard is incompatible with the world where Tether caused huge BTC runups all on its own.
The price of btc denominated in tether (BTC-USDT) goes up after our transaction. Now, arbitrage bots will look at this in crease in btc-usdt, and be mandated to buy btc with USD so that BTC-USDT and BTC-USD are in parity. Now bitcoin's price in dollars has gone up and people notice this, and news articles are printed and people get FOMO.
But at the root of this pump is a fraudulent transaction. I printed tether that I know is not worth one dollar each, and you played along with me and we exchanged tether for btc, and we caused btc to go up in price so that we both benefit. Whomever buys btc (i.e. retail investors) after I've pumped the price is in great danger of being scammed because there was no real money behind the initial tether transaction. You, the exchange, might be holding a lot of useless tether, but it doesn't matter because you've already profited from the price increase in btc via higher trade volume and usage of your platform plus all the publicity you get from a media that is always happy to report insane btc valuations.
So you don't do anything with the tether, you don't care about it as the exchange. It's unclear if the tether in these exchanges, which is a lot, will be redeemed for dollars at some point in the future by coming back to me, the Tether company, where I would use some of my profits from selling btc high to trade some of your tether for USD and help maintain the appearance that tether is fully backed by USD.