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Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by boomboomsubban on Monday November 23, 2020 @11:31AM (#25188468)
>why are they expected to give him freebies, contribute to the code or anything else?

Because it would be cool, and some good press that very few people would read.

After the tweet likely started to trend you see the start of the eternal GPL vs MIT/BSD debate, but the first couple just seemed pretty like they thought it would be neat if he got a Switch.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by chaostheory on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:09PM (#25188928)
It would help if there was an IMDB for everything that everyone used. At least that was my thinking, so I built it: https://theymadethat.com/people/s730px/emmett-shear

If you scroll down, you'll see some of the tools (I assumed) he used.

If you go to one of his projects (Twitch), you can see what he used for it: https://theymadethat.com/projects/7da659d8-629f-5c10-9160-7a...

That in turn should show up in the main product profile, which results in credit being given like IMDB

https://theymadethat.com/things/wz7/twitchtv/show_built_with...

The problems are two fold:

1. It's more work to do than a normal resume since it's project-centric. Also unless you're constantly tracking this, does everyone remember all the libraries they're using? Probably not (There's still a lot of work needed on the UX front. It's not very optimized for mobile)

2. People have to start using it. (I have never marketed my IMDB for everything well enough) See #1

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by furyofantares on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:52PM (#25189468)
It's interesting that people are calling for him to get a switch specifically and not for him to get $200 which he could spend on a switch or not. That would make it feel like a market transaction and would call into question whether it was the right price, even though it was licensed to bypass the market.

So this is some sort of middle ground, folks feel like there should be a more meaningful gesture than is required by the license without feeling like it should be put into the psychological category of compensation/market rate.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by boomboomsubban on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:41PM (#25190042)
Or somebody read their tweet, and then personally imagined how cool it would be if one day they got a package saying "we used your code, here's a Switch as thanks." People aren't always making complex cost/benefit analysis before posting a one sentence tweet.
Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by furyofantares on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:41PM (#25190793)
I don't see how that's in disagreement with what I found interesting?

Usually the sentiment I see expressed in these threads reads to me as: hey, it's not fair that this company is profiting on your (permissively licensed) work without sharing the profit.

But I think that is not the sentiment being expressed here, and rather it is the thing you said.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by boomboomsubban on Monday November 23, 2020 @04:47PM (#25192326)
I thought you were discussing the twitter replies, not the discussion here.

The top comment in this thread, the one I replied to, is basically "I'm happy for the guy, but why do people think Nintendo should/would contribute back?" It's the same GPL vs BSD discussion, just people aren't trying to rain on the individual's celebration.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by tylersmith on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:34PM (#25189942)
The license didn't require acknowledgment at all. This is already a more meaningful gesture than is required. They are specifically calling out this software as something powering the Switch software.
Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by xeeeeeeeeeeenu on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:29PM (#25190654)
MIT does require acknowledgement. Nintendo was legally obliged to include the full text of the license and the copyright notices in their documentation.

Not everyone is a fan of that requirement, which is why Unlicense, 0BSD, 1-clause BSD and Boost licenses were created.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by nix23 on Monday November 23, 2020 @11:46AM (#25188644)
>but the first couple just seemed pretty like they thought it would be neat if he got a Switch

How much did he paid for the compiler?

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by CydeWeys on Monday November 23, 2020 @11:50AM (#25188693)
Huh? He released his stuff as open source. That's exactly what other open source users using GPL-style licenses want. Nintendo are the ones not releasing their software as open source. They're the ones using open source without giving back, thus breaking the chain. (Which permissive BSD-style licenses do allow.)

It seems like you're drawing some false equivalence between the open source developer and Nintendo.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by Kranar on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:09PM (#25191138)
Open source licenses say nothing about giving back and in fact the OSI quite deliberately moved away from that idea as a key differentiator between themselves and the FSF.

If someone wants to distribute their software with the expectation or requirement that derivative works in some sense give back to the community they should use the GPL or AGPL.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by nix23 on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:10PM (#25190420)
>That's exactly what other open source users using GPL-style licenses want.

LLVM is NOT GPL.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by nix23 on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:05PM (#25190350)
>He released his stuff as open source

I bet his compiler is opensource too.

Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by CydeWeys on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:45PM (#25190840)
So what point are you trying to make exactly? He's using open source software and then contributing back to the open source community; he's a model citizen of the community. Nintendo, meanwhile, is taking without giving.
Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by boomboomsubban on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:17PM (#25190519)
It's node.js, I don't think there's much choice.
Re:The Nintendo Switch uses my open source code by VoxPelli on Monday November 23, 2020 @11:56AM (#25188766)
Do we know this?