We come from dramatically different perspectives because building page-reloading MVC still feels fine, as fine as it ever did.

And Turbolinks is Rails' answer to the madness that is JS frameworks. You get a lot of the functionality of a single page app while still keeping the much-easier-to-code-for serverside rendering

I am very happy I don't have to touch JS frameworks if I don't want to. Because I hate all of them (except Vue and jquery, they're cool)

Rails isn't for trendy hipster JS kids, and I hope it never will be. I don't want those people in this space, they fuck everything up