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Re:1 in 4 Americans are jobless or earning poverty-level wag... by kyriee on Saturday November 21, 2020 @08:32PM (#25174115)
It’s seldom mentioned when talking about unemployment. Particularly when it comes to titles, so it’s fair to say excluding the hopeless from unemployment makes it a misleading metric
Re:1 in 4 Americans are jobless or earning poverty-level wag... by Mary-Jane on Saturday November 21, 2020 @09:02PM (#25174269)
Which again, has been the case for a very long time. The participation rate has been tracked for as long; rather than changing how unemployment is calculated the media could just reporting that metric instead. Seems like a simpler solution.
Re:1 in 4 Americans are jobless or earning poverty-level wag... by _qulr on Sunday November 22, 2020 @06:49AM (#25176728)
> Which again, has been the case for a very long time.

We all seem to be admitting that it's a bad, misleading statistic. So why are we so committed to keeping it around forever? Why not change the definition?

People say "for historical comparison", but what's the point of a historical comparison of a statistic that we all admit now is bad and misleading?

The fact that something has always been done a certain way is no justification for continuing to do it, especially if the initial decision was misguided in some way.

Re:1 in 4 Americans are jobless or earning poverty-level wag... by qppo on Sunday November 22, 2020 @01:16AM (#25175384)
I don't think it's seldom mentioned - it's both common knowledge among people who pay attention to financial/economic news and repeated monthly (when the new jobs report comes out). They're usually reported side by side.

It's much more misleading to suggest that the people not included in the unemployment rate are the "hopeless" since it includes children, the retired, and those unable to work.