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Re:Cancel student-loan debt? That’s making the working class... by ryandrake on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:13PM (#25171467)
> many people in the world are not happy when their prudent choices are invalidated by a change in the government policy in favor of others who took the opposite choice as you. And that they be called "selfish" for thinking so.

Sorry, but they are called selfish because they are selfish. And, they are part of the reason we can't make any changes for the common good anymore. We can't seem to politically make things easier that were previously difficult. This "I suffered to do X, therefore everyone in the future must suffer to do X" is a toxic, progress-limiting, and quintessentially American point of view. Same logic as "We can't have universal healthcare, because I have been paying so long for my own healthcare!" and "We can't relax immigration policies, because when I immigrated, it was difficult!" and "We can't take care of our poor elderly because I paid my own 401K for decades!"

I paid back over $200K in student loans over more than a decade. I'm glad they're paid, finally. Not having them hanging around my neck is helping me financially get on track. If there is a chance someone younger than me (maybe even my own kids) can go through his or her life without that burden, I am all for it. Their success does not diminish mine.

Re:Cancel student-loan debt? That’s making the working class... by supernova87a on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:20PM (#25171549)
Here, let's make this more concrete so we're not debating over intangibles.

How much of your salary are you willing to give for this student loan forgiveness program?

$10,000? every year?

Not that much? Why are you being so selfish?

Re:Cancel student-loan debt? That’s making the working class... by ryandrake on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:29PM (#25171625)
$1.5 trillion is less than what was spent on the Iraq war, and just two years of US military spending. We can make it work without simplistically raising everyone's taxes by $1.5T/everyone. The hardest step is to change people's political priorities so that they actually include making more people better off.

Oh, and to answer your actual question, yes, I'd much rather have $300 of my tax bill every paycheck go towards the "making education free for everyone" fund rather than the "blowing up a kid hiding in a hole with an AK47" fund.

Re:Cancel student-loan debt? That’s making the working class... by supernova87a on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:54PM (#25171818)
And what if we don't decrease the military spending? Are you happy to pay the extra?
Re:Cancel student-loan debt? That’s making the working class... by ryandrake on Saturday November 21, 2020 @02:06PM (#25171912)
Sure, if we're setting aside reality, and pretending that the only possible way to fund this is with a nation-wide, flat, non-progressive federal income tax increase for the full amount, I'd still be fine with it. Not sure what that adds to the discussion, since that's not even remotely how something like this would actually be paid for.