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Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by _nosewings_ on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:16PM (#25166728)
IMO, the Web could stand to be a little bit harder to use.
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by kristopolous on Saturday November 21, 2020 @12:59AM (#25168097)
I've, unrealistically wanted there to be "read only" access where someone would then apply to some organization demonstrating aptitude for write access.

I'm just joking but then again I'm really not

Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by krapp on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:16PM (#25166730)
Why?
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by nosmokewhereiam on Saturday November 21, 2020 @12:28PM (#25171079)
I bet this is related to Eternal September
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by antepodius on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:27PM (#25167445)
To filter out idiots and the lazy. 'Normies'.
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by astrobe_ on Saturday November 21, 2020 @04:22AM (#25168659)
Snobbism aside, I would gladly give up on some "usability" for a passive web (basically raw HTML or even Gopher or Gemini) and a separate active web (basically a proper virtual machine perhaps like Squeak/Pharo).

But as soon as you cut off ways to make the Web more "engaging", it makes it far less interesting for the ads market, so less contents. Even individual content producers (e.g. Youtubers, Twitchers) look for monetization these days.

Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by jhgb on Saturday November 21, 2020 @07:47AM (#25169399)
> and a separate active web (basically a proper virtual machine perhaps like Squeak/Pharo).

Something like WebAssembly, then?

Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by astrobe_ on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @12:43PM (#25200818)
AFAICT WebAssembly is in the continuum of HTML/CSS/JS, and is intended to "make things faster", so there is no reason to separate things that are essentially text and medias from things that are essentially programs.

In other words, WebAssembly won't cut the Gordian knot, in my opinion.

Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by oxford_comma on Friday November 20, 2020 @10:52PM (#25167742)
Here is where I consider myself a segregationist. Give them their web: Facebook, YouTube, Google, et al. -- leave me out of normie net.
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by kwhitefoot on Saturday November 21, 2020 @02:54AM (#25168411)
You needn't join in. You are free to segregate yourself.
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by ZWoz on Saturday November 21, 2020 @06:04AM (#25169008)
Are they? You still are in same infrastructure and legal framework. Thats like saying you are free not visiting neighbouring apartments. Their "influence" (smoke, noise) is still leaking to your space. Same with web. Like facebook negatively affecting separated web forums.
Re:Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) by krapp on Saturday November 21, 2020 @08:07AM (#25169512)
You can find another infrastructure and legal framework like Project Gemini, and I'm sure other separatist protocols will pop up in the future.