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Re:Making CSS saner (from Patrick of Auctomatic) by antirez on Tuesday May 29, 2007 @05:44AM (#25162)
Don't like this design binding CSS stuff and application vars, I could use as alternative a function that gets a CSS++ and turns it into a CSS, so that the CSS remains self contained. Something like this:

@define companyred #ff5000

@define warningborder border: 1px red dotted

h1 {

color: @companyred;

} ....

So that the CSS file makes sense by itself.

Re:Making CSS saner (from Patrick of Auctomatic) by pc on Tuesday May 29, 2007 @05:51AM (#25163)
The are a few problems with this approach. First, it takes more work. Second, it makes it harder to share values between CSS files. (Of course, you could add an @include statement to the "CSS++" language -- but that's starting to get pretty heavyweight.) Lastly, having yet another language is kinda unnecessary and confusing, as compared to just integrating ordinary Ruby expressions.
Re:Making CSS saner (from Patrick of Auctomatic) by antirez on Tuesday May 29, 2007 @05:57AM (#25166)
First: you did the work just one time, it's a 10 lines of code function :)

Second: I use only a CSS, and only a JS file, it takes a lot of sense because the client will cache them both the first time, so even without include it's ok most of the times.

Lastly: It's semantically not more complex than your. Just @define to define and @symbol to expand.

But of course it's just a point of view like many things in design. I wanted to share my view about this because I planned to write the interpreter for this stuff and write a blog entry. Thanks for your article I'm happy it makes sense for others to extend in some way the CSS in order to have some kind of symbols.

CSS gurus and standard fundamentalists will usually reply that with inheritance you should never need this kind of stuff, but they lies ;)

Re:Making CSS saner (from Patrick of Auctomatic) by pc on Tuesday May 29, 2007 @06:02AM (#25167)
Ah, misunderstood you first time round. The problem with just doing symbol expansion is that you can't have values that depend on other values (like the "Width + 10" example in the post). For us, this has been a large part of the gain.
Re:Making CSS saner (from Patrick of Auctomatic) by antirez on Tuesday May 29, 2007 @06:10AM (#25168)
Perhaps it's possible to mix this two things to get something like:

ruby {

.... ruby code defining stuff ...

}

attrib: @stuff

Self contained, not a new language, able to define stuff relative to other stuff.