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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by White_Wolf on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:24AM (#25160197)
If it's the same as all of them then should we expect the same consequences as the N1H1 vaccine in 2009/2010?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps...

Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by bpt3 on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:27AM (#25161957)
From the linked article: Pandemrix was not licensed for use in the United States.
Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by jeromegv on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:57AM (#25160999)
From the link you posted:

In 2018, a study team including CDC scientists analyzed and published vaccine safety data on adjuvanted pH1N1 vaccines (arenaprix-AS03, Focetria-MF59, and Pandemrix-AS03) from 10 global study sites. Researchers did not detect any associations between the vaccines and narcolepsy.

Incidence rate study data did not show a rise in the rate of narcolepsy following vaccination except in the one signaling country included (Sweden, which used Pandemrix). Case-control analyses for Arepanrix-AS03 did not show evidence of an increased risk of narcolepsy. Case-coverage analysis for Pandemrix-ASO3 in children in the Netherlands did not show evidence of an increased risk of narcolepsy, but the number of exposed cases was small (N=7). Cases-control analysis for Focetria-MF59 did not show evidence of an increased risk of narcolepsy.

Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by lmilcin on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:21AM (#25160175)
Hey. I am not anti vaccine. Your comment is uninformed in that you did not read my comment with comprehension and that you don't understand what stupid stuff anti-vaxxers are serving.

My kids are all vaccinated and so am I and I don't suggest to people to not vaccinate.

I am just trying to cool down the too happy thinking that the vaccine is some magical tool that automatically causes problems to go away with no risk.

In particular, we don't yet know how long the effects of vaccine will persist, we don't know of long term side effects (and even very small amount of side effects multiplied by 7B people is a problem) and we don't know WHEN it is going to be feasible to vaccinate everybody. Remember, it is going to be pricey and many people will choose not to vaccinate for financial or other reasons.

Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by fooflarney on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:35PM (#25162762)
This is how I feel too. I have a science degree and firmly understand the logic of vaccines and I and my family are all vaccinated. However, I do NOT get flu shots, and I usually fare better yearly than those who do. Why? Because I keep my immune system functioning as optimally as possible, vegan diet, exercise, healthy living. People these days are so pro-vaxx that they think they can live completely unhealthy lifestyles, and eat whatever crappy food and processed meat are available, and then the magical biopharmaceutical alchemists will release yearly drugs to defend against the viral outbreaks. Doing so you give them power, and those people are the same people who developed napalm, agent orange, mustard gas, and every other predatory chemical that exists. So yes the black magic pharam folks can produce good miracles to save you, but they also could be the ones actually DEVELOPING bio warfare agents like the covid-19 virus, and then it's a vicious circle. All they need is for otherwise smart people to give up questioning the chemical components of the vaccines themselves, and they can develop wearables and social barriers that allow totalitarian rule. It's not binary, you can question the vaccine at any level, that's what science is about, it's not about anti-anit-vaxxing propaganda and insane dependency on predatory institutions that pretend to care about your well being.
Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by wonderwonder on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:30AM (#25160247)
"the best decision is to let vaccinate everybody else but don't take vaccine yourself"

This is unfortunately exactly what anti-vaxxers do, they enjoy the benefits of herd immunity thanks to the vast majority of people getting vaccinated but spread negativity & doubt about the vaccine at the same time. The current Covid vaccines have had a very large testing group and been put through the same strict regulations as any other vaccine. The only reason there is chatter about not taking it is due to the current political / media climate.

"Remember, it is going to be pricey and many people will choose not to vaccinate for financial or other reasons"

What do you base this on?