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Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:07AM (#25149567)
What I find more concerning is many people will have uploaded videos with the understanding people could just watch them for free and then died. At which point YouTube is essentially monetizing dead people without paying their estates.

Are people going to need to stipulate in their will to delete all uploaded content to stop crap like this?

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Vespasian on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:57AM (#25151459)
The estate as the copyright holder (in most cases) can pull down the videos if they like.

YouTube is not obligated to host and serve content for free forever.

As many other big tech companies they have a very strong position in the market (edging into monopoly / duopoly territory), which essentially prevent competitors with different business plans to be successful.

To me this sounds like the market is broken and warrants a critical investigation.

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:43PM (#25152058)
That supposes the estate is even aware of such content. Which is the issue I am talking about. I would be fine if google disabled formerly free videos until someone agreeded to monetizing them, but to just arbitrarily make that change means it’s done without the possibility of consent.
Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by jefftk on Thursday November 19, 2020 @04:16PM (#25154463)
> I would be fine if google disabled formerly free videos until someone agreed to monetizing them

That seems worse? All these videos that I uploaded become inaccessible just because I'm not around to approve monetization?

(Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:40AM (#25160319)
If I had explicitly removed monetization of a video then yes, I would prefer an explicit conformation of the change. If nothing else to avoid confusion.
Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by jefftk on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:57AM (#25160996)
It is not explicit: historically, videos were unmonetized by default
Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by 0-_-0 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:15AM (#25149644)
Should the products of dead people not be monetizable? How about selling a Van Gogh painting?
Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:43AM (#25150620)
If you own it sure. However, if you’re suddenly changing contracts after the fact that’s just theft.

What if a backblaze or other backup service just decided it the copyright on all uploaded files after 1 month of non payment and started selling people’s home movies as stock footage?

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by renewiltord on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:08PM (#25152334)
Ah I see. It's a rules thing. In that case it's fine. The ToS explicitly allow this after all. So you aren't really changing things outside of what's allowed.

This is like when you put into a contract "Party A may withdraw from this contract at any point" and then you withdraw at some point. That's playing by the rules.

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:24PM (#25152587)
You can put anything in a ToS, that’s simply not enough. Again, I would be fine if Google simply stopped hosting videos without consent, but behavior changes like this are different.
Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by alisonkisk on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:18PM (#25156411)
How is it different?

If you want to make changes to your assets after you die, write a will and hire an executor.

The living aren't obligated to negotiate with the dead.

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by Retric on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:59PM (#25156627)
The issue is you can’t guess every possible change. Let’s suppose Facebook goes broke in 20 years and the new owners decide to make absolutely everything public. That’s going to make a lot of people upset whatever it’s allowed by the TOS so that’s fine right?

If your alive you fight such things by suing the company, but the dead don’t make such choices.

Re:YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators ... by oarsinsync on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:29AM (#25149812)
For better or for worse, dead people (or rather, their estates) can still have copyright ownership of works they've produced.