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Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by BiteCode_dev on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:34AM (#25146559)
Untrue, here in France I regularly use MMS. There are 1000 different messaging apps, some are on whatsapp, some are on telegram, some are on "new thing".

But MMS works with anybody with a phone, and you don't even need a good internet connection.

For a quick picture, a contact card or a small voice message, it's great.

Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by rrobukef on Thursday November 19, 2020 @04:16AM (#25147661)
I'm from Belgium, I've received about 10 MMS in my life. All failed to download. MMS use is apparently extremely country (or person) specific.
Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by samoa42 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:53AM (#25149416)
> I've received about 10 MMS in my life. All failed to download.

same here in germany. nobody ever uses it

Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by aloisdg on Thursday November 19, 2020 @07:12AM (#25148723)
Well can you back this with data? I am french too and beside my mom nobody use MMS in my circle. We did like 10 years ago.
Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by BiteCode_dev on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:39AM (#25151234)
Data, no, it's an opinion.

But we all have mums (or other people not using a chat app), and a lot of us write text messages to them. If the text message is more than 3 sms, congrats, you use mms. If you use the feature "send contact" or make any attachment to your text message, you use mms. If you send an emoji in you text message, you may also use mms.

You don't have to be aware that you are sending an mms to send one. Most sms apps do it transparently.

The biggest sender of mms is probably iMessage from iOS, because it makes let tech saavy users ignore the difference between chat and sms (the infamous green bubbles). So users just send stuff, and sometimes, they do so using mms.

The less technical the user, the more likely they are to send mms without knowing they are.

Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by eznzt on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:50AM (#25147515)
Does everybody use MMS, or do you regularly use MMS? Because your complaint about messaging apps sounds like the usual Linux user stuff. Most people will just use whatever app is more common (which according to this is Messenger)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7RQwoJ8z83Zi65NDMvmHKVU0Wx...

Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by BiteCode_dev on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:19AM (#25147991)
People don't use mms, they send stuff using their sms app, which decide to use an mms or not. In fact, long text messages are often turned into mms under the hood. People just don't know about it. As long as it works transparently, they don't have to.
Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by eznzt on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:33AM (#25148091)
Do people actually use SMS? Aren't they bloody expensive?
Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by BiteCode_dev on Thursday November 19, 2020 @06:10AM (#25148328)
Sms, mms, and phone calls are included in a lot of cheap unlimited contracts accross europe.
Re:Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping by pta2002 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:58AM (#25148243)
It's free in a lot of places.