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Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by absolutelyrad on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @09:43PM (#25145642)
> Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake

It seems like we need moral people in leadership positions around world the at the top who don't care about game theory. Game theory is a curse that needs to be eliminated. Prisoner's dilemma does no one good.

The biggest impediment to trust is non trustworthy people at top.

Geopolitics IS for nice people, we just need to make sure nice people are involved in geopolitics and make it to the top. I know people with power who have been absolutely moral despite no oversight. The could've given their children or themselves so much benefit but they did everything for collective good of everyone. People like that exist, but they also prefer hanging out with people like them. Not opportunists. Humans win collectively with cooperation.

The other option is going backwards and tribal.

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Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by elefanten on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @11:28PM (#25146233)
"we just need to make sure nice people are involved in geopolitics and make it to the top"

Those are the hard problems in your prescription.

-No easy way to test and identify (reliably and at scale) for trustworthiness.

-Not all nice/trustworthy people stay that way over time, especially for long periods of time and as their opportunities/environment/outlook change.

-Notions of trustworthiness vary across people and peoples.

-Positions/nodes of power attract people who want power -- trustworthy or not. Often not.

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Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by seppin on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @10:29PM (#25145898)
> Prisoner's dilemma does no one good.

Isn't that the point? We all would be better off working together, but that's not in our nature to do so.

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Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by airstrike on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:31AM (#25146535)
> Prisoner's dilemma does no one good.

The problem is the prisoners didn't put themselves in prison – they find themselves there as a consequence of international politics and must play the game to the best of their abilities

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