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Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by reaperducer on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @01:40PM (#25140581)
The only Google product I use anymore is GMail, and only for one legacy account.

My experience has been that the GMail interface is slow, and I'm tired of it nagging me to install the GMail app. If I wanted to install the GMail app, I'd use my phone, not my computer.

GMail's spam filtering was best-of-class years ago. That's why so many people switched to it. But now it's mediocre at best. I can only shake my head and wonder how some of the so visibly obvious spam messages get through.

In keeping with the spirit of the OP, I'm not going to recommend a better option. They're out there. And with GMail getting worse by the month, it's worth keeping your eyes on the competition to see when you might want to make the switch, too.

Google Search is also supposed to be terrible. I don't use it, but my wife does and she complains about it all the time.

Recently she was searching for information about drinking white wine with beer. It's supposed to be a thing in New Orleans. She wasn't able to find anything but ads and places selling white wine and/or beer.

Right now, searching Google for "white wine and beer" and "new orleans" I get a blog post about Christmas in Australia, "Beer Drinking African American" stock photo, Pinterest spam about beer buckets, and a bunch more blog spam. Nothing useful. I see no reason to go back to Google for anything.

Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by dmd on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @01:47PM (#25140679)
> My experience has been that the GMail interface is slow, and I'm tired of it nagging me to install the GMail app.

Can you describe this more? I'm unaware of any official-from-Google GMail app for desktops.

Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by reaperducer on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @02:38PM (#25141393)
That's my point. Even though I'm using a computer, every time I log in to gmail, Google nags me to install an app.
Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by dmd on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @02:56PM (#25141651)
What browser and user-agent (https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent) ? Maybe you changed it and forgot to set it back?
Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by reaperducer on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:08PM (#25142459)
I don't change my user agents.
Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by Ivoirians on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @03:44PM (#25142206)
When I google "white wine and beer new orleans" I get this blog post as the top result:

http://psycho-gourmet.blogspot.com/2014/06/boozing-with-brod...

which suggests that besides one line in a movie, this isn't a thing that exists in reality. So... what else should be returned? Other websites that describe how this combination doesn't exist?

Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by reaperducer on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:09PM (#25142472)
what else should be returned?

It doesn't have to return anything else. Just the entry you listed would be fine. But for me, and for my wife, that is not in the results.

Remember that your Google results are not the same as anyone else's. It's spent billions to "tailor" the results for each human on the planet. At the same time, making the results worthless.

Re:Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? by livre on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @05:29PM (#25143389)
For GMail have you tried the basic html view or using a mail client?