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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by LatteLazy on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:13AM (#25134683)
The first time a government announced they would take action but not for a decade, it signalled action would be taken. This is the 1000th time a government has said "no action today but maybe in a decade". That signals no action. That's the same signal markets have been given for several decades now.

I am happy to admit this is a complex issue, one that needs a global solution, an expensive one, maybe an unsolvable one.

But we also have to admit that so far no action has been taken. And this isn't action either.

That's what I'm asking for here: let's all be honest for this thread and admit this is worthless and we're running out of time and we either need to make hard choices OR admit we're not going to fix it...

Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by mavhc on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:20AM (#25134737)
1990: do you want to fix global warming, it'll take 1% of gdp. -- nah 2000: It's now 3% -- nah 2010: It's now 5% -- nah 2020: It's now 7% -- it's too expensive to fix now

We need to tax pollution the amount it costs to clean up that pollution, that's all. You can fly as much as you want if you pay the costs.

I suggest a £1 tax on non EV cars, that doubles each month

Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by sgt101 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:51AM (#25134965)
When it gets to £16 there will be protests, when it gets to £64 it will be repealed. This is what happened in France.

If new personal cars are EV only by 2030 then by 2025 most manufacturers will have changed most of their product line, by 2029 virtually all will have changed virtually all.

Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by twelve40 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @05:02AM (#25135023)
how bad will it get for the UK specifically? honest question, I'm not a climate scientist. Brief googling, floods, more extreme temps (like the rest of Europe now?), maybe they did the math and decided that simply shutting down the Thames Barrier and a few other measures would be cheaper than drastic hard ICE bans etc?

Not to cast any doubt on the horrible terrible disasters that the global warming will surely bring, but the UK is not Florida, so maybe they did some location-centric math and found that specifically for them it's not life or death?

Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by xenocratus on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @05:39AM (#25135243)
No, it's not Florida, so it won't be that bad, but in my short time here (about 8 years) it does seem like winter storms are more frequent, I'm sure the Western (and Southern?) coasts have seen a lot of rain and flooding. Some recent summers have had some pretty intense heatwaves (35+ C around the county). It's definitely not a catastrophe, but there are changes
Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by rand49an on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @05:35AM (#25135227)
Not bad in the global scheme of things but hundreds of millions of global refugees isn't going to be good for anyone.