We can do better than DuckDuckGo

Re:We can do better than DuckDuckGo by bscphil on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @03:51PM (#25129650)

I like this idea! I think the biggest difficulty with it - which is also probably the most important reason that engines like Google and DDG are currently struggling to return good results - is that the search space is just so enormously large now. The advantage of the suggestion in the blog post is that you trim down the possible results to a handful of "known good" sources.

As I understand it, you'd want to continue to search the whole "unbiased" web, then apply different filters / weights on every search. I really do like the idea, but I imagine we'd be talking about an increase in compute requirements of several orders of magnitude for each search as a result.

Maybe something like this could be made a paid feature, with a certain set of reasonable filters / weights made the default.

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Re:We can do better than DuckDuckGo by Spooky23 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @05:21PM (#25130701)

I disagree; the search space is shrinking as more and more stuff moves to walled gardens like Facebook and Twitter.

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Re:We can do better than DuckDuckGo by retsibsi on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @05:39PM (#25130873)

This may be a very dumb question, but could the filtering be done client-side? As in, DDG's servers do their thing as normal and return the results, then code is executed on your machine to weight/prune the results according to your preferences.

Maybe this would require too much data to be sent to the client, compared to the usual case where it only needs a page of results at a time. If so, would a compromise be viable, whereby the client receives the top X results and filters those?

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Re:We can do better than DuckDuckGo by bscphil on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @10:32PM (#25132900)

This would work if you had a blacklist of domains you didn't want to see. But the idea in the post is closer to a whitelist: the highest priority sites (tier 1) should be set manually, and anything after that should be weighted by how often it's referenced by the tier 1 sites. For a lot of searches you're going to have to pull many results to fill a page with stuff from a small handful of domains, and in fact you might not be able to get them at all. And that's before you start dealing with the weighting issue, which would require quite a bit of metadata to be sent with each request.

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