Interesting to see you say the SF Bay Area is much better than most of the country, while this article says the Bay Area is experiencing significant population decline:

https://www.publiccommentsf.com/post/u-s-postal-service-data...

I was talking specifically about its execution of COVID-19 mitigation. Taxes, and other issues are a completely different subject.

Should've specified that in the original comment, because significant population loss is not doing well.

The whole conversation is about infections from Covid. I don't think that chaostheory needed to explicitly state the context. Everyone in every post in every thread does not need to state the entire context. That's what threads are for.

Masks will not allow us to get back to normal more quickly. The only thing that will allow that is immunity through vaccinations. Countries other than the US have implemented strict mask & border controls still do not have a handle on the virus.

China doesn't seem to have a covid problem. Now, granted it's difficult to trust their official statements on anything because of how easily they lie thinking everyone else is too stupid to see through it. But I'd think if covid were actually a problem there word would get out eventually.

I understand they put some pretty severe restrictions in place initially, though. Probably far too strict for most of us in the west to truly consider. But now they don't need them, and people are more or less living normally.

Studies and data tell us otherwise.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-face-mask-protection-vacc...

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronav...

People in Asia, from both what I've seen and what my relatives keep telling me, no longer quarantine or social distance. Case in point: Singapore. They have a larger population than New Zealand yet live on an island that's smaller than NYC. They have virtually no local cases. They all wear masks.

btw which country were you referring to that had both mask mandates and strict border controls, and simultaneous are unable to contain it? Doesn't New Zealand has both? They seem to be managing it just fine.