No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years

Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by couchand on Monday November 16, 2020 @09:26PM (#25119678)

Citation needed.

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by wk_end on Monday November 16, 2020 @10:55PM (#25120116)

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/predictions-suicides-overdoses...

There's been tons of articles and research supporting this if you care to look. And honestly, while citations are always good, this claim is so common-sensical that the knee-jerk "Citation needed.", as though OP were suggesting that there was a teapot floating in space halfway between here and Mars, comes off as unnecessarily disrespectful.

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by DanBC on Thursday November 19, 2020 @06:56AM (#25148622)

Here's some stuff from actual research orgs, and we haven't yet seen an increase in deaths by suicide.

http://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?DocID=51861

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352.full?ijkey=NDYZgh6...

Lots of caution needed about the data, and these are early data and the situation may change so we do need to pay attention to prevention, but:

> Nevertheless, a reasonably consistent picture is beginning to emerge from high income countries. Reports suggest either no rise in suicide rates (Massachusetts, USA11; Victoria, Australia13; England14) or a fall (Japan,9 Norway15) in the early months of the pandemic.

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by moron4hire on Monday November 16, 2020 @08:06PM (#25119214)

Ask a bunch of self-centered people to stay home and suddenly they become experts on all the suicides the kids are doing.

You are just bringing that up to argue.

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by bananaquant on Monday November 16, 2020 @10:30PM (#25120005)

Of course not, that's what the experts are for. I couldn't find much about young people, but data on adults should be suggestive enough (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...):

"In this survey study that included 1441 respondents from during the COVID-19 pandemic and 5065 respondents from before the pandemic, depression symptom prevalence was more than 3-fold higher during the COVID-19 pandemic than before."

And not to antagonize you, but just a post earlier you were talking about protecting people in your community. Caring about their wellbeing is one of the ways of doing that.

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by davrosthedalek on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @06:15AM (#25122408)

Was the depression higher because they had to stay home because of a mandate, because they had to stay home because they were scared of the pandemic, because they were scared of the pandemic, or because the pandemic killed their friends/family, or because they had empathy with all the people who lost friends/family/employment because of the pandemic?

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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by DanBC on Thursday November 19, 2020 @06:57AM (#25148625)

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352.full?ijkey=NDYZgh6...

> Nevertheless, a reasonably consistent picture is beginning to emerge from high income countries. Reports suggest either no rise in suicide rates (Massachusetts, USA11; Victoria, Australia13; England14) or a fall (Japan,9 Norway15) in the early months of the pandemic.

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