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Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by thcleaner999 on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:01PM (#25116291)
Please if you do comparisons, it should be done against comparable countries like, Denmark and Norway. If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countries have a far worse health system, distrust of authorities and are much more vulnerable against economic downturns.

the fact is Sweden is still doing far worse than Norway and Denmark

Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by DoingIsLearning on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:38PM (#25116709)
> If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countries have a far worse health system, distrust of authorities and are much more vulnerable against economic downturns.

Minor nitpick, I agree on the other points but Spain objectively does not have a "far worse" Healthcare system than Sweden in 2020. You might need to revise your assumptions.

Looking at the data available up to 2015, Denmark already had a worse HAQ index than Spain in 2015, and Spain had a negligible difference compared to Sweden [0].

Spanish longevity has kept increasing and competing with Japan [1], beyond 'mediterranean diet' effects, which again many attribute to Healthcare quality.

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/healthcare-access-and-qua...

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/spain-to-beat-...

Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by s1artibartfast on Monday November 16, 2020 @06:35PM (#25118501)
Good thing the data isn't comparing Sweden to Spain and Italy, but Sweden 2020 to 2010-2019.

Also, I think there are a lot of problems when conducting comparisons between countries, and it is best to be avoided unless conducted in a extremely rigours way. There are absolutely ways ways in which Sweden is more like Spain or Italy than Denmark or Norway, and it take a through analysis to even attempt a comparison.

Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by Darmody on Monday November 16, 2020 @06:50PM (#25118642)
Spain has a better health system than both Denmark and Norway.
Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by mns on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @05:38AM (#25122170)
But wait, everyone is blaming people in Europe and the US for feeding the virus and not behaving properly, comparing them with countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand. So when is it ok to compare random countries with different climates, different political systems, different population structure and health infrastructure, only when it suits us?
Re:No excess deaths in Sweden compared to the last ten years by sushshshsh on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:09PM (#25116396)
What about compared to itself lol