On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Years

Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by znpy on Monday November 16, 2020 @09:20AM (#25111899)

IQ test is bullshit and has been debunked a number of times.

Nowadays anyone bragging about their IQ should be considered a moron and left talking to themselves.

For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3oUqKUx2o0 (first thing that came off my head)

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Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by thotsBgone on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:55PM (#25116215)

IQ tests are universally accepted in psychology as the most robust psychometric ever developed. The idea that IQ tests are "bullshit" is nonsense pop psychology. Some people might try to over-interpret IQ tests as meaning more than what they do, but they are very good at measuring what they measure, and they predict a lot of things.

That said, I agree if you brag about your IQ you're a moron.

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Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by gameswithgo on Monday November 16, 2020 @09:32AM (#25112052)

a test in isolation cannot be bullshit. when people talk about iq test many people imagine the person believes an iq test is a rigorous measure of all intellectual talent. or course it is not that. but it is also wrong to suggest it has no meaning at all. it does have some predictive power.

imperfect measures are not always useless, which is goof since all measures have some error.

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Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by freeflight on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:29PM (#25114393)

> a test in isolation cannot be bullshit.

A test trying to measure something we can't even properly define is kinda flawed in it's whole premise.

As such the best an IQ test can do is measure how well somebody prepared for a test like that, but it will struggle to properly catch any knowledge or skill domains not covered by the test, of which there are a lot.

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Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by gameswithgo on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:05PM (#25116346)

IQ tests correlate with things. Thus it captures more than just how good someone is at the IQ test.

You can say "There is this test, and people's scores on this test correlate with various things like, income, marital fidelity, religiosity, incarceration rates, job performance". We call this test the IQ test.

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Re:On Learning Chess as an Adult – From 650 to 1750 in Two Y... by thotsBgone on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:56PM (#25116226)

IQ tests don't even attempt to measure any knowledge or skill domains at all. I don't think you understand what an IQ test even measures.

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