Certainly some people care a lot about factory farming. Even so, the key difference here is that brain function and intelligence are tied so tightly to the idea of human exceptionalism; that it is OK to enslave a horse but not a human, because humans have more capacity for autonomy, suffering, and so forth.

How precisely to draw the line is very much a matter of disagreement.

It's all kinda not-okay, and kinda icky. But we certainly seem to put intelligence on a higher tier. If we ever make another sentient species, we should probably not enslave them. Pinky swear, guys?

>that it is OK to enslave a horse but not a human, because humans have more capacity for autonomy, suffering, and so forth.

That's illogical. No, we enslave animals because we can. If animals were to coordinate and start a rebellion we would stop enslaving them and try to appease them through diplomatic means. Humans are known for their coordination and so monkeys with human intelligence and communication like humans would coordinate very well.

I propose my assumption instead of your own. Humans would exterminate the animals that started to rebel and even if it's an entire species.

Certain dog breeds were selected for intelligence, at what point does breeding a herding dog become an ethical dilemma?

Hey, Veedrac. You're probably bored with that by now, but I did reply to your last message- I just didn't see it in time:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25063580

HN seems to hide replies once they get deep enough. I honestly think we've mostly exhausted that conversation, though.

Of course, I just didn't want you to think I've huffed off or something. Take care.

monkey != human

i want to return to monke as much as the next guy but i dont really see it happening in the near future