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Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by galangalalgol on Saturday November 14, 2020 @02:49PM (#25095056)
What about pescatarian (sp?)? I like the idea of ditching dependence on land based animals. Is sane tilapia farming sustainable? I have a fairly strong intolerance for beans and pulses and getting enough protein to deadlift from other sources is hard. The best my blood work has ever been was me eating about 1.3lbs of grassfed beef a day plus greens and 4 sweet potatoes. Thats great, but not sustainable for our whole population.
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by srg0 on Sunday November 15, 2020 @06:44AM (#25100421)
Commercial fishing at modern scale is not sustainable. Fish farming, especially for valuable species, still has a huge carbon footprint, requires a non trivial amount of agricultural land, and often uses wild-caught fish to feed the farm. So we're back to square one.

Not saying that the issues can't be solved, but pisciculture is not a free lunch from the sustainability point of view.

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by curryst on Monday November 16, 2020 @10:34AM (#25112919)
> Fish farming, especially for valuable species, still has a huge carbon footprint, requires a non trivial amount of agricultural land, and often uses wild-caught fish to feed the farm. So we're back to square one.

Isn't most of that only true for carnivorous or omnivorous fish? I knew there were problems with finding small fish to feed the bigger fish, but I was under the impression that herbivores and filter feeders could be raised sustainably. I.e. farming tuna would be extremely difficult and costly to the environment, but you can farm things like tilapia and catfish fairly sustainably.

They aren't fish that a lot of people are excited to eat, unfortunately.

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by galangalalgol on Sunday November 15, 2020 @09:16AM (#25101330)
My favorites are baitfish like herring and sardines does that change the sustainability? If not, should I just go back to beef, or is it at least better?
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by galangalalgol on Sunday November 15, 2020 @09:26AM (#25101407)
Tilapa are herbivores, and some setups grow all the fishes food in the tank. Whether that is scalable is another matter.
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by SEJeff on Saturday November 14, 2020 @04:49PM (#25095954)
I'm an omnivoire, but can't you get a lot of vegan protein from chickpeas and soy? Soy does have the obvious huge downside of containing a much higher amount of estrogen and causes havoc in some people, but Chickpeas aren't hard to make delicious. Ditto for lentils as well
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by seanwilson on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:14PM (#25096581)
> Soy does have the obvious huge downside of containing a much higher amount of estrogen and causes havoc in some people

Do you have a study that confirms this? As far as I know this is a myth. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogen#Effects_on_human...

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by st1ck on Sunday November 15, 2020 @12:13AM (#25098443)
Another downside of soybeans is that its production causes deforestation and other environmental changes in areas like Amazon. See e.g. https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/the-story-of-soy

That said, soybeans are mostly used to feed livestock, so if you just eat meat instead of soy, that's likely not any better for environment.

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by vram22 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:24PM (#25096243)
> Chickpeas aren't hard to make delicious. Ditto for lentils as well

Yes. Check out my other comment about beans in this thread. All the dishes I mentioned there are pretty tasty. And so are lentils, if by that you meant masoor or masoor dal, or even if you meant tuar dal). And all those are high in protein as you say.

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by galangalalgol on Sunday November 15, 2020 @09:15AM (#25101316)
I love Indian curries, but one serving obbeans or pulses will haunt me for a couple days. I don't know if it is sibo related, but I do have that. Cauliflower, blackberries, and mushrooms destroy me too.
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by vram22 on Sunday November 15, 2020 @03:52PM (#25104706)
Tough luck. Maybe some people are more prone to such issues.

>sibo

A typo? An acronym?

Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by galangalalgol on Sunday November 15, 2020 @05:49PM (#25105723)
Small intestine bacterial overgrowth. Often due to overuse of antibiotics in childhood. I'm not complaining, probably would have died without them.
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by vram22 on Saturday November 28, 2020 @05:59PM (#25241288)
Had not heard of SIBO. Good to know. Wonder if yogurt and other fermented foods that increase good gut bacteria can help.
Re:Chili pepper consumption associated with 25% reduction in... by amanaplanacanal on Sunday November 15, 2020 @12:27AM (#25098510)
They said they don’t tolerate beans and pulses well. Chickpeas, soy, and lentils all fall into that category.