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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by tomjen3 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @02:36PM (#25094964)
Nerd here. I don't care to sign up for a chat service that my friends aren't using.

I did look into matrix, but either I have to host a server myself or I will forever be stuck on one other guys server, right? Then there is no reason to move to it and it is not really anymore federated than email.

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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by remirk on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:25PM (#25095338)
In what way is it not federated like e-mail?

> or I will forever be stuck on one other guys server, right

This is valid criticism at the moment. There is work being allocated on fixing this issue, with multiple protocol drafts, but it might take a year a two before you can finally transfer accounts between servers.

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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by Arathorn on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:40PM (#25095444)
We're aiming to get portable accounts early next year, as part of the P2P work, using the approach at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2787. P2P Matrix is unusable without it.
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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by remirk on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:53PM (#25096775)
Awesome! Thanks for the reply Matthew!
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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by tomjen3 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:47PM (#25095484)
I meant to say that it is not more federated than email: sure I can write to anybody using any service but my @gmail is forever bound to googles service.

In my mind a true federated service would allow me to move my stuff from one place to any other place, kinda the way I can move my domain to a new host.

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