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Re:A court ruling in Austria could censor the internet world... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:06AM (#25092692)
> has there been another Western democracy more tested and compared to Orwell's 1984 in the last 5 years than the US?

None of those people are in jail. And that regime, despite its best efforts, is being peacefully removed from power.

America is the world’s oldest [EDIT: large, old] extant democracy. I wouldn’t lightly consider toying with something so basic as free speech. Several European and Asian democracies are already teetering towards authoritarianism, the first step of which is curtailing public debate.

Re:A court ruling in Austria could censor the internet world... by save_ferris on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:46PM (#25095478)
> America is the world’s oldest [EDIT: large, old] extant democracy.

Nothing about our history guarantees our future as a democracy, this is hot hand fallacy at its finest. If there's one thing that's consistent across human history, civilizations always fail at some point.

> I wouldn’t lightly consider toying with something so basic as free speech. Several European and Asian democracies are already teetering towards authoritarianism, the first step of which is curtailing public debate.

Free speech existed prior to the internet, it's not like Tim Berners-Lee changes the world and all of a sudden free speech exists. Canada has much stricter free speech laws than the US and their political discourse seems to be just fine. Plus there are already plenty of restrictions baked into "free speech" online. You can't threaten to shoot up a school on social media without consequences, why can't the same principles be applied to people who make death threats towards individuals? Companies already have the ability to lock you out of your account for no reason whatsoever without any defined arbitration system. What about the internet is so truly sacrosanct that we permit such inconsistency from corporate governance while railing against legal protections mandated by governments? Free speech is already being messed with; it's being used to automate the virality of hate speech with ruthless efficiency.

Re:A court ruling in Austria could censor the internet world... by naniwaduni on Saturday November 14, 2020 @07:08PM (#25096850)
> hot hand fallacy at its finest.

Interesting choice of analogy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hand#Recent_research_in_su...

Hot hand "fallacy" is only fallacious if cross-event outcomes are unrelated. Back in reality, neither hot hand nor reverse gambler's are actually fallacious.

Re:A court ruling in Austria could censor the internet world... by bitwize on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:53AM (#25093019)
> America is the world’s oldest extant democracy.

That would be San Marino.

The U.S. Constitution is the oldest constitution still in force. But we're still pretty young as democracies go. Hell, we haven't even been around as long as one of the first libertarian states, the Icelandic Commonwealth, was.

Re:A court ruling in Austria could censor the internet world... by pjc50 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @02:15PM (#25094772)
San Marino has only been a democracy since, what, after the Italian revolution? It is a uniquely old microstate, though.

(Another line of counter-argument is that the US wasn't a democracy until the civil rights act...)