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Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by kace91 on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:00PM (#25089662)
>Xi's mind is an open book in comparison to deciphering a fuzzy collective thought ethos of any democratically appointed cabinet.

You can't possibly think that xi is ruling by himself like a God.

Dictatorships have just as much of a fickle, constantly changing hivemind as any other form of government. you might just have one ever running party, but look inside and you'll see a complex network of factions.

Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by free_rms on Friday November 13, 2020 @10:56PM (#25090169)
There are 91 million people in the party, and more who want in. Getting party membership is a big part of getting ahead. (Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here.)

All of those people have relationships that roll up and down. Rules for rulers and all that -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by kace91 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @07:19AM (#25091876)
> Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here.

Perhaps I didn't use the best term, but it seems you're saying the same thing I did? My point was precisely that the actions of the party as a whole aren't collective actions directed by a single person's mind (xi's) but rather the sum of all the party members ideas and political movements, so it's just as complex as a democracy.

Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by free_rms on Saturday November 14, 2020 @12:48PM (#25093986)
Yeah, I was adding detail rather than disagreeing.
Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by justicezyx on Friday November 13, 2020 @11:07PM (#25090219)
Give me a break...

No one needs party membership to do anything in private sectors...

Why the hell people still think about Chinese live like party farmed animals. For God's sake, get on YouTube search some Chinese speaking videos by normal people.

You are so echchambered that I start pitying you...

Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by free_rms on Friday November 13, 2020 @11:14PM (#25090244)
I think you misunderstood me here, I was trying to emphasize how big and varied the party's interests are. People often frame it like a singleminded machine.

I don't live there but I've heard a lot of people say that party membership is useful, not necessary mind you, for lots of business endeavors.

There's a whole other conversation about the differences in representation between the two countries, and I think China's system has some points in it's favor as far as "does this government act on behalf of it's people", but I was just trying to phrase things in a way that would get through to the typical HN reader.

Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by justicezyx on Saturday November 14, 2020 @02:23PM (#25094852)
Apologize, it was not come to me in that way.
Re:Xi Jinping personally halted Ant's IPO after Jack Ma snub... by free_rms on Monday November 16, 2020 @10:04AM (#25112465)
Probably bad writing on my part too, there's 2 sides to every misunderstanding :)