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Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by orangecat on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:11PM (#25086143)
the left does not deny basic facts, and in particular, it does not attempt to dispute the outcomes of elections when the results are clear

Hillary Clinton has been claiming that Trump's election was illegitimate for years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trum.... 66% of Democrats believe that Russia directly hacked and manipulated vote counts in the 2016 election: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...

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Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by lisper on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:47PM (#25086549)
> Trump's election was illegitimate

But she does not deny the fact that he did win. She's just saying that he won because of dirty tricks (voter suppression, intentional promulgation of falsehoods), which is plausible. Certainly within the bounds of an opinion one could legitimately hold.

> 66% of Democrats believe that Russia directly hacked and manipulated vote counts in the 2016 election

Sure. A fair percentage of Democrats would probably say that they think that Trump is Satan incarnate. That doesn't change the fact that Democrats do in fact recognize the fact that Trump won the 2016 election. Republicans by and large are not conceding that Biden has won the 2020 election. (They also deny basic facts about climate change, COVID, etc.)

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