They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955)

Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by eli_gottlieb on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:30PM (#25085674)

>5. An idiot called Raz, and his boys start providing 'security'. Nobody asked them for it. People who ran the protest didn't ask for it. People living in the area didn't ask for it. Smells like a gang moving into a power vaccumm to me.

So you blocked the police out of a whole neighborhood of a few square blocks, and a gang moving into the power vacuum is a surprise? Come on!

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Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by Viliam1234 on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:04PM (#25086784)

> So you blocked the police out of a whole neighborhood of a few square blocks, and a gang moving into the power vacuum is a surprise?

It was completely unexpected. And it will be completely unexpected the next time, and the next time, and the next time...

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Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by vkou on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:14PM (#25087576)

Nobody blocked the police out of a neighborhood. They chose to leave, because they could not handle a peaceful protest outside their precinct, and could not restrain themselves from initiating violence.

And because they ran out of gas.

Contrast the SPD's behavior to how the Bellevue police department handled BLM protests. The police chief met with the protest organizers, treated everyone involved with respect, set some ground rules, and did not start a dozen unprovoked attacks on the public.

When all you have is a warrior cop, every problem looks like an insurgency to be put down. The SPD has an incredibly antagonistic attitude towards the public, and is institutionally incapable of de-escalating. It also seems to not actually be subject to any form of democratic oversight - as city council, despite passing many, many resolutions, is unable to reign them in.

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