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Re:Gig economy companies spent more than $200M to bankroll P... by dannyw on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:52AM (#25082786)
Before Uber came along, flexible jobs that you could engage with at any point in time didn't really exist either.

The "glass half full" way to think of it is that Uber bought work flexibility; and as it turns out the labor market values this flexibility with slightly lower wages.

If you think we should out-regulate that, should we ban part time jobs too? How about we ban unpaid time off?

Any barriers to work (i.e. regulation) just accelerates AI taking over all the jobs. Anything that drives up the cost of labour, just means more automation like self-serve kiosks or robo security guards today; and who knows what tomorrow.

If you want to solve societal inequality and provide a safety net, which is something I 100% back, do that through taxation + a universal basic income.

Re:Gig economy companies spent more than $200M to bankroll P... by claudiulodro on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:56PM (#25086663)
Piece work has existed for at least 500 years[1] and those were definitely "flexible jobs that you could engage with at any point in time." Unsurprisingly, piece-work employment also suffered from many labor issues[2]. Uber is just piece work for giving rides, and so should be governed by laws that protect piece-workers[3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piece_work#Guild_system

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piece_work#Abuse

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piece_work#Minimum_wage

Re:Gig economy companies spent more than $200M to bankroll P... by freehunter on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:04PM (#25086785)
> flexible jobs that you could engage with at any point in time didn't really exist either

Sure they did, we called them “cottage industries”. You’ve always been able to buy from a farmer’s market or small general stores (who source a lot of their merchandise from random craftsmen). Craigslist pre-dates Uber, and classified ads pre-dates Craigslist. There are stores around the world specializing in hand-made and home-made items. Independent contractors have existed since the beginning of civilization, and any city in the world will have a generic handyman service for work around the house.

My wife just sold four candles, Uber wasn’t involved with that. My grandmother knits dishclothes and sells them to a local shop for distribution whenever she decides to go into town, Uber didn’t invent that.