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Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by long_warmup on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:31AM (#25080639)
> If people buy it then, well, they are fine with it.

I don't think people have much choice these days. If you want a smartphone then you will either get something from Apple or from Android people. There are other choices but are they mainstream? In my local shops I can't see anything else. Android or Apple.

That's why I'm buying PinePhone and going to waste lots of my life to make it fit my needs, but I hope once time is spent I will be happier human being ;)

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by ernst_klim on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:50AM (#25080727)
> I don't think people have much choice these days.

Well, choice is about compromise. You have to choose between freedom and convenience, but you can choose. I'm saying that as a person who used 4 linux phones as daily drivers for last 10 years (n900, n9, jolla, xperia with sailfish).

> There are other choices but are they mainstream

Well there are. Maybe they are not mainstream because people value convenience over freedom, which is unfortunate to me, but who am I to dictate them my values.

At least there are always some linux phones to choose from, and hopefully fabless/new open platforms would even increase the amount of such. I mean, 10 years ago it was nokia or nothing, today there are pinephone, fairphone, librem

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by forest_dweller on Friday November 13, 2020 @05:06AM (#25080812)
Why should you choose between freedom and convenience? They are not mutually exclusive.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by ernst_klim on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:31AM (#25082507)
Of course they are. You need to invest a lot in your platform to make it convenient, so you have to be able to monetize it well enough.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by forest_dweller on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:01PM (#25086743)
I am not talking about the software itself. I am talking about the ability to run whatever software you like. This means alternative OS or allowing someone to install another app store.

They could literally put in a button to let you install what you like. In fact they already did this in the past.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by zepto on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:48AM (#25082725)
I agree with forest dweller - they are not mutually exclusive.

There are many open source products that have had huge investments without monetization.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by ernst_klim on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:54AM (#25082810)
> There are many open source products that have had huge investments without monetization.

Like what?