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Re:Estimated 3° Warming by 2500 if we cut all emissions now by haltingproblem on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:30AM (#25079927)
Let me propose the following thought experiment: for all the folks who claim they can predict climate 400 years (or 100 or 30 years) out, please take the climate models and run them for only 1 year out. This should give you much much lower error bars ergo higher confidence.

Use it to predict winter in NE 1 year out? I would posit that if they can predict average temps 400 years out then average temps 1 year out should have higher confidence? These predictions can be used to trade heating oil futures and make tens of billions. I do know that energy firms employ many climate modelers but unsure of the accuracy of their forecast s even 1 year out.

Re:Estimated 3° Warming by 2500 if we cut all emissions now by croon on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:09AM (#25080510)
Imagine you have a gun mounted in a bench vice, pointing down a shooting rage towards a target.

You can map out 50 shots from that gun, and pinpoint the average middle, and how much individual shots diverge from that middle. Then you take the average of another 50 shots and notice the recoil has pushed the average middle slightly upwards. So you make a model predicting the average middle in another 50 shots, accounting for the degree change from the recoil meaning a further distance than the previous to average middles.

Then comes along a guy asking you to predict just 1 shot, the next one, not an average. Which of course is much less accurate. That is what you're suggesting.

Re:Estimated 3° Warming by 2500 if we cut all emissions now by haltingproblem on Friday November 13, 2020 @11:17AM (#25083788)
Heating oil futures and natural gas futures for the various regions are tied to the average temperature since oil/gas heating usage is tied to temperature across days and not just the min or max.

So to go back to your excellent analogy, I am certainly asking for the average middle (the first moment) and not a point prediction.

ps: you should write more, we need better scientific explanations!