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Re:macOS unable to open any non-Apple application by strawberrypuree on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:32PM (#25076108)
This is a soft failure. If the computer didn't have access to the Internet, it would still open.
Re:macOS unable to open any non-Apple application by elmo2you on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:44PM (#25076255)
That's all nice and well, but what if some country decides that your country will still have Internet access, but a "degraded experience" to Apple's central infrastructure?

Still sounds to me like Apple rolled out a huge (logical) trojan horse, as a potential weapon in terms of nation state cyber warfare.

Probably not at all with that intention. But I doubt that any government willing to abuse this "opportunity" will give a fuck about that. Don't underestimate the power (and disruptive) effects of being able to practically disable a whole brand of popular computer hardware. Heck, even the ability to threaten with it (privately, through diplomatic channels) can (and probably should) be considered a serious weapon. So yeah .. "thank you" Apple.

Re:macOS unable to open any non-Apple application by nnwright on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:56PM (#25076380)
From my experience during this outage, the ability for the computer to "open" may not actually mean much. While trying to fix what I assumed was a localized software issue I rebooted my machine. Typically this takes a minute or two. However during Apple's systems outage my rebooting took approximately an hour before my computer was in any way functional again.
Re:macOS unable to open any non-Apple application by Aperocky on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:02PM (#25077042)
so you can't even reboot without phoning home.

Or can you still reboot without wifi?

Re:macOS unable to open any non-Apple application by pacificmint on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:02PM (#25077039)
In this case, any app would take five to ten minutes to open. While that technically means "it still opens", it effectively renders the computer unusable.

(And that's after I realized that they will eventually open. Originally I rebooted the machine before any app had had a chance to open.)